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that slavery was the big difference between the two, but there were lots of other differences. one of them is that the southerners had pursued a very profitable intensive monoagriculture. maybe it was rice one place or tobacco another place. that was different, where there was much more of a mixed economy in the north. but i started to say about northern abolition--that had a tremendous ideological and social impact on the north and differentiated it from the south in a very conspicuous way, because now it wasn't just the paucity of slaves in the north, it was an actual moral stance having been taken against slavery. c-span: how many slaves were there in the north? >> guest: mm. goodness. that's a question i'm not prepared to answer. a quarter--let me give you some figures--a quarter of the working population in manhattan was enslaved. i know that. in the new england states, it was about 4 percent to 6 percent of the population. if--in pennsylvania, it might be 10 percent to 12 percent. new york: 16 percent, 18 percent. new jersey--about that. so... c-span: what was the impetus to get rid
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